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Hind Tit · 2008-08-04 6:57 AM

Currently in preliminary testing for site and course layout. Testing conducted by fearless leader at undisclosed location...status report to follow.

Or was this the real reason?

And you guys who left early thought the excitement ended with the guard rail.

Turd and wife, thanks again for the hospitality. Also, I made it to work...but I don't feel right. And I'm afraid to go to the bathroom...

paulc · 2008-08-04 7:34 AM

This is a story I'm dying to hear!

eprissel · 2008-08-04 7:35 AM

WTF??? 2 in one day? You ok Champ? I think Todds bike faired a little better...

Badfish · 2008-08-04 7:54 AM

paulc wrote:

This is a story I'm dying to hear!

+1 What happen?!

On the bright side, I hear the street fighter look is in...

madscout636 · 2008-08-04 7:59 AM

paulc wrote:

This is a story I'm dying to hear!

+1

milageguy · 2008-08-04 8:01 AM

Hope no one got hurt.... Let me know if you want to rent my bike for the Laguna ride.

madscout636 · 2008-08-04 9:21 AM

or mine.

aaron · 2008-08-04 9:23 AM

Is that knife I see for cutting away all the zip ties?

That sucks man.

12xCHAMP&COUNTING · 2008-08-04 9:46 AM

Going forward, you may call me Buzzsaw!!

Pine trees suck! On the upside, so do goats.

Details to follow.

I think Turd may have the best account as he had a rolling front row seat.

eprissel · 2008-08-04 10:26 AM

12xCHAMP&COUNTING wrote:

Going forward, you may call me Buzzsaw!!
Pine trees suck! On the upside, so do goats.
Details to follow.
I think Turd may have the best account as he had a rolling front row seat.

yeah he's ok...

Badfish · 2008-08-04 10:36 AM

12xCHAMP&COUNTING wrote:

Going forward, you may call me Buzzsaw!!
Pine trees suck! On the upside, so do goats.
Details to follow.
I think Turd may have the best account as he had a rolling front row seat.

Damn those seksi goats!! Always a distraction...

Hind Tit · 2008-08-04 10:39 AM

BTW, the irony that this is a "Stallion Service" facility...with a goat...run by two men, is not lost on me.

crash06 · 2008-08-04 2:51 PM

Damn! Glad everyones alright.

eprissel · 2008-08-04 3:19 PM

Do we have pics of the other crash?

Turd Furgesson · 2008-08-04 3:39 PM

12xCHAMP&COUNTING wrote:

Going forward, you may call me Buzzsaw!!
Pine trees suck! On the upside, so do goats.
Details to follow.
I think Turd may have the best account as he had a rolling front row seat.

Just so people are aware, Champ rode this one all the way into the tree. NO BAILING. If anyone else has the balls to do that, I dare them to prove it.

I gotta go help a buddy this evening but I guess I could post up an account of the carnage later tonight if Champ doesn't.

Turd Furgesson · 2008-08-04 7:19 PM

Just a little set-up: These are very familiar corners that just beg to be set on fire every time.

The approach speed was somewhere in the 125-135 range. It was the last good corners of the day so late braking and high entrance speed were required for satisfaction. Entry was approximately 80ish in a 35 corner to the left with medium corn on the inside and a "farmish" front yard on the right. Being a blind inside lane meant staying far right throughout. Unfortunately, the pile(and I mean a PILE) of dirt at a meter wide was in the right lane hidden by the corn. We were in it within a second of turning in. Champ outside taking the brunt of it and me inside catching the edge. By the time I had finished plowing the front through the dirt, I could see The Champ was just about to enter the ditch. Focusing full attention(big mistake, I know) to my right, I bore witness to the most drawn out crash I've ever seen.

Upon entering the ditch, It looked as though it would be over instantly as Champ's bike folded in on itself in the dry filth. No, now it was up and still going straight at all of 60 through the yard. I watched him miss no less than 2 lawn orniments and a large wooden framed sign, then over the dirt driveway and toward the the trees. I never saw the trees until that second and thought just for a moment that he had it. The trees were set up like bowling pins from that angle and so it was not to be. I actually heard the crack over my beautifully quiet pipe and through my helmet from 15 meters. The last thing I saw was Champs bike auger in and endo with The Champ going over the bars. That was that. At this point, I was also slightly in the dirt from watching(I'm getting old) but going slow enough to stop. By the time I got turned around I could see Champs gloves being thrown(purposely) through the trees. I could see he was ok and there was a nice sense of relief. Keep in mind this all happened in about 3 seconds. It was fucking crazy. Hats off to The Champ and notice in one of the pictures how there was actually "steering" through the yard at speed.

Moral of the story: Don't kill suicidal shrews for no reason.

As a side note, I heard from one witness that while in the air, The Champ held two fingers in a closed circle below his waist-line while doing a full gainer. Brilliant.

aaron · 2008-08-04 8:37 PM

Turd Furgesson wrote:

As a side note, I heard from one witness that while in the air, The Champ held two fingers in a closed circle below his waist-line while doing a full gainer. Brilliant.

This had me laughing for quite a while.

paulc · 2008-08-04 8:37 PM

Thanks for the play by play, Mr. Furgesson. Seeing as how it was the Champ, I knew it had to be something spectacular.

Champ, damn considerate of you to spare the lawn ornaments and sign. Way to think on your seat!

Only one other question: How are the bruises on the witness's arm doing?

Hind Tit · 2008-08-04 10:08 PM

Hind tit reports: I saw a dust cloud rising from the other side of the corn from about a 1/4 mile back.

...do shrews "beep" when they explode?

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12xCHAMP&COUNTING · 2008-08-04 11:21 PM

First, thanks to everyone who's offered a bike for the Laguna ride next week. I haven't decided if I'll ride or just do food prep, but your generosity is appreciated.

Thanks to Turd for attempting to make me out as Captain Courageous, but the truth is, jumping off a bike at 60mph or so just doesn't come all that naturally to me. Also, I really thought, after I made it into the yard, that I could negotiate the trees. Guess what, I was wrong.

Turd pretty much nailed my mindset as well. These corners are very familiar to the club regulars and are the corners I'm most likely to go through with the least amount of margin for error.

What I mean by this is that I usually go through a corner at what I would guess is 70% of capacity. Some more, some less, but that's a decent figure. Going a bit slower allows you, the rider, to compensate for the unknowns such as dirt, gravel, shrews, etc.

In these corners, I'd say I'm approaching 90% of my comfort level leaving only 10% in reserve. In this case, I needed more than 10%.

Another factor is my experimentation with sliding the rear into corners. When attempting this, I take a very "square" line which led me wide into the shit!. I'm not nearly proficient, yet, and was trying it here. I was very hard on the front brakes and dropped it into 2nd gear letting the clutch out to initiate the rear tire slide. I'm still hard on the front brakes and then I saw the dirt. The white line is approximately my path of travel.

I would have washed the front instantly had I remained on the brakes so I let off and then immediately got back on them when I was through the dirt. I was attempting to turn left to stay on the road while braking and then I saw the two huge piles of gravel directly in front of me. Referring to the picture above, I've circled the two gravel patches.

This is just another picture of the first patch of dirt. It looks like perhaps a bobcat or skidsteer scraped the road where I circled. Sweet MS Paint skillz, I know.

Well, now I'm off-roading so the front brake is out of the equation. The bars turned to full left lock when I first left the pavement, as I was still leaned over a few degrees, and I was sure I was going to go down hard, but somehow I didn't. I'm modulating the rear brake the best I can, trying not to just lock it up while attempting to avoid the obstacles in my way. I really, truly thought I was going to make it through the pines.

This picture of the right side of my tail shows a scrape. I believe I glanced off a tree on the right which pushed me to the left and ultimately into the terminal tree.

The bike faired unbelievably well and I think it will be a street fighter, but who knows. I for sure need new rotors(front) and a headlight of some sort. Other than that, it was all cosmetic which really doesn't concern me much and hasn't since the parking lot on Water Street a month after I bought it all shiny and new.

As for me, a bruise on my right calf, a little abrasion and bruise on my left forearm and some pain in my left pec. Pretty freakin' fortunate for some moron who hit a pine tree at around 30mph.

This was 100% avoidable and 100% my fault. I knew I was going in hot. Part of what I love so much about riding on the street is the skill it takes to negotiate the unknowns in any given situation. That's why I usually allow more of a cushion, but as Turd said and I said before, these corners beg to be "set on fire". Well, I got burnt. The unknowns definitely outweighed the cushion.

99% luck, .9% blind luck, and .1% skill got me through this one.

One last pic for you. You'll notice, in the circled area.......NO POO!! I should be a surgeon with such steady hands.

Fish, the goats say "hi".

Hind Tit · 2008-08-05 8:15 AM

Too alarming now to talk about
Take your pictures down and shake it out
Truth or consequence, say it aloud
Use that evidence, race it around

There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He

eprissel · 2008-08-05 9:50 AM

aaron wrote:

Turd Furgesson wrote:
As a side note, I heard from one witness that while in the air, The Champ held two fingers in a closed circle below his waist-line while doing a full gainer. Brilliant.
This had me laughing for quite a while.

HAHA me too!

eprissel · 2008-08-05 9:55 AM

The best part is how Champ refers to "I really thought I could make it through the trees..." several times.

12xCHAMP&COUNTING · 2008-08-05 11:24 AM

Cuz.....I really thought I could.

Fish, the sticker got torn right in half so now it's either really huge or really tiny.

I enjoy pushing the limits on my bike. It's why I ride. Motorcycling is inherently dangerous. Many things are in the rider's control as far as minimizing the risks. Often times I choose not to minimize the risks, but rather to approach that indefinable limit. The limit is a moving target depending on your speed, your bike, your skill, the conditions, etc.

I've come up with a few examples in an attempt to illustrate my point. I've never been skydiving, but there is no doubt some inherent risk. Some people never choose to push the limit of that sport as the enjoyment they get out of the activity wouldn't go up by adding risk.

Another activity which can be very benign is kayaking. Take it on a lake on a calm day and there's very little risk. That's what some people are looking for. You could take the same piece of equipment to a river in Colorado and the activity and associated risk are quite different.

I don't always ride near the limit. In fact, I rarely do. In this instance, I picked a poor time to push it and I got lucky the outcome wasn't much worse.

I hope this gives you a bit of insight into my motorcyling mentality. I know many of you will know exactly what I mean and some just won't and that's fine.

The rush comes from honing a skill, not the perceived danger especially by those who do not ride.

eprissel · 2008-08-05 11:52 AM

"The bike faired unbelievably well and I think it will be a street fighter, but who knows."

Might as well, that would be badass!

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